Hola Amigos!
With no real Revit shit to bitch about (other than receiving garbage background files of buildings designed and modeled by morons), I'm left having to bitch about other stuff - like our idiotic/incompetent 'salesforce'.
Now, these are the guys responsible for making this whole thing a reality - although a lot of our actual clients come to us through other channels - only to be delegated to various salesmen to do takeoffs, estimates, submit bids, and hopefully get signed contracts before we go to work doing detailed designs.
These salesmen's ability to do this correctly, and see a project through to completion does have an impact on our ability to retain clients, as well as get new ones through word of mouth. Fortunately some of the systems we design and install are requirements of any kind of building, and the rest are highly desired (and will have to be done by someone - so why not us?)
On top of that, some of the systems have to be monitored, and receive regular testing and occasional maintenance - so we kind of have some people by the balls (or lady balls). Obviously there are other firms doing the kind of work we do, but we've got a pretty solid client base that includes several federal and state government agencies, city/county school systems, etc. (across several states), as well as other large companies - along with all manner of medium and small clients.
These tasks require maintaining a fairly large salesforce, as well as making sure we take into account the type of client, and any special requirements they may have with a salesman (or salesmen) who are going to be capable of handling the scope of the project, and (if necessary) hold the client's hand throughout the process.
Some clients (especially those at the federal level) have people who literally do one project at a time, over disturbingly long amounts of time - so the level of detail they start to go into in order to justify their paychecks goes FAR beyond anything in reality (and dragging us down with them). Even once a building is built, and as-built documents are submitted, they often continue to fiddle with inconsequential items and pull us back into the mix again and again.
For this reason, we generally front-load these projects with plenty of extra time for revisiting the same (often not even very large) project over and over and OVER AND OVER. Many of the projects are renovations of part of larger buildings, and over the years before I started working here, people apparently had serious difficulty keeping track of what went where, and so they would occasionally start new projects to do a renovation of a piece of a building where we did the original building - and the renovations should have started with those drawings in order to maintain one master set.
Add to this, the process of submittal, mark-up, re-submittal, etc. has always been sketchy (at best), sometimes involving direct contact between the client and me (or whoever is designed their project), a mix of the client, electrical contractor (who we are sometimes a sub-contractor for - depending on the nature of the project), and the salesman - who may or may not be capable of juggling several projects at a time (along with their personal issues).
The best way we've figured out to handle it is for the salesman to be the one point of contact, that way we make sure that everything we are doing actually falls under the scope of a project that we have a contract for, and if we start to experience 'scope creep' - like in the case of a small addition to a building that we were supposed to do that turned into a renovation of the entire existing building (not uncommon), then we make sure to submit change orders, or put together new contracts to address additional work.
It also keeps e-mail clusterfuckery down, where you have to dig through several different people's e-mails (even if you try to organize them by project) - sometimes discussing (and including file attachments) for more than one project. This was the case for a series of projects that came through recently - and as I was looking at them, my brain started to turn completely to mush.
The saleman had tried to consolidate all of them down into a single e-mail/list - but as I started going through them, I couldn't help but shake the feeling that many of them sounded VERY familiar. One of the biggest issues with this (federal government) client is that they refer to all of their projects through a series of acronyms - which would be bad enough, except that on top of that, many people involved with the projects come up with their own names/nicknames.
Some are the words that the acronyms are made from, some will refer to the building numbers that the acronym projects are located inside of, and some are... just totally fucking made up (or, my favorite - people refer to them by the sheet numbers that address the portion of the building that we are addressing. This last one isn't as illogical as it sounds, since each area has a set of sheet numbers allocated to it, but as I mentioned earlier, some people weren't clued into this standard, so they took off on their own, creating a series (or multiple series) of drawings with numbers that don't match up with the rest of the sets (it literally hurts my brain just trying to type this).
I found out why they seemed familiar when I opened the first set of comments, and discovered that I had actually done them - over a month and a half ago. I point this out to the salesman, and he goes back and finds the e-mail where I had sent him drawings, and he neglected to forward them on (keep in mind, this guy wants everything sent to him for review before it goes to the client). Now, this is great, because I'm already done - but to prevent him (and thus 'us') from looking like idiots, he has me re-date the drawings and send them again (so now we look like slow idiots).
I jump into the second project - and (sure enough) I find drawings that I had done SIX MONTHS PRIOR. Unfortunately, this time, I couldn't find where I had sent him an e-mail, but after a quick dig through the pile of crap on his desk, I find a set I had printed (at his request) and left for him to review before wasting my time e-mailing anything (and having it disappear into his e-mail inbox).
In this case it kind of worked out, because while I was done with the drawings, the EC had sent over updated floor plans (that only sucked a little bit) for me to insert, so that's two down. They've sent over the third one this morning, and it won't surprise me in the least if it was done as well - the only question is whether or not I have proof that I gave it to the salesman. Fortunately while this guy is a bit of a space cadet (due to going too many directions at once - along with some health issues he's dealing with), he's actually a pretty stand up guy, and will admit when he makes mistakes.
He's a super genius compared to Dipshit McDumbfuck that had me wasting my time submitting shit to the wrong AHJ, or the guy that I literally had to start putting received/read receipts on everything I send him because he apparently doesn't understand how e-mail works (he would ask me to do something really quick in the morning, so I would stop what I was doing, knock it out, send it to him, then receive a phone call that afternoon asking if I had gotten to it yet).
Those two have the distinct advantage of not working in the same office as me (the second one being in another state), or I probably would've tossed both of them out of a window by now. We've got a few more in this office that range from total space cadet, to reasonably concerned with making sure their projects get done properly. And even all of these don't compare to the (fortunately) small number of guys who try to pull the good old 'throw me under the bus because they fucked up' routine.
I mentioned it in a previous post, but I did a massive renovation and addition to a school, sent it over - with the explicit instruction to have one of their guys go do a walk down of the existing portion to verify that it made sense (I had been compiling information from decades of drawings showing systems that had been 'grandfathered' in by AHJ's who may have literally be the grandfathers of the people doing the design work.
One day I have the owner of the company come into my office and tell me that this salesman is telling him that I did a bunch of stuff incorrectly, and had added tons of extra equipment - instead of doing a one-for-one replacement of the existing system (which nobody had informed me was the plan). I told the owner (who is actually a really good guy) that I had sent over a set for them to review and mark up literally weeks prior.
We got on speaker with him - and he claims 'yeah, I had my guy go out and mark up drawings', so I said 'well - then send them to me'. He agreed, and two days later I called him back to ask why he hadn't sent them - and it came out that he had lied while on the phone with me and the owner to cover his own ass, and worse - had been lying to a co-owner that is in his office as well.
I resorted to my tried and true method of blind carbon copying (bcc) both the owner and co-owner on all future correspondence with this guy - and hilariously both of them would respond to me by telling me to 'get him'. It's always funny when someone goes to a higher up to try to throw me under the bus, not realizing that I'm on good terms with the higher ups (anyone reading my blog for any length of time should know I'm not a kiss-ass, but it always pays to have friends in high places).
Unbenownst to the the guy trying to scare me by going to the higher-ups - the owner is a fanatic for old Ford/Shelby race cars, and I've been building classic Mustangs for years as a hobby, and the co-owner is a metalhead - and any time he's in town and drops by our office, he will come back to my office and we talk metal bands.
Everyone else is scared of these guys - and they think I am too, and it cracks me up every time someone threatens me with going to them. Dude, seriously - we're just going to have a good laugh at your stupid attempt at covering your ass, so why not just do your goddamned job, because I damn well do mine.
Vaya Con Dios,
Skuzzy AF
Next Time: Apocalypse Wow
Monday, October 28, 2019
Tuesday, October 8, 2019
How Much Shit Could a Nitwit Submit If A Nitwit Could Submit Shit?
What's Crackin?
Well, no new Revit news to report here - just a half a day wasted trying to figure out WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO TWO PROJECTS WE SUPPOSEDLY SUBMITTED SIX MONTHS AGO.
Of course the guy who did the projects goes on vacation - leaving me to field a call from an irate salesman screaming about 'I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THESE PROJECTS APPROVED FOR SIX MONTHS!!!! He actually tried to claim there were THREE projects, but after a quick check only two of them were actually done (the third is still waiting on info showing an equipment layout - which he apparently requested, only for them to try to resend the lighting plan... again).
I have access to the guy's computer who is on vacation, so I dig through his clusterfuck of e-mails back and forth, and talk to a girl in the front office who specifically remembered having our old office manager come back and sign off on the drawings (since he is the only guy with a Georgia license), but either those drawings got lost in the mail, or they were never shipped, or some damn thing.
I checked out UPS shipping records, but there was nothing. It's possible someone ran them out after hours to a UPS or FedEx store, and there is a tracking number laying around somewhere, but nobody bothered to make note of that.
I talked to the plans review office in Atlanta, who apparently only have one engineer for the entire goddamned state (for this kind of project), and noticed while I was going through the menus that they have the wrong suite # on their transmittal sheet that you have to fill out in order to submit. I thought for a minute that may have been the problem, but they assured me that they would've still received them even if it had gone to the wrong suite (although I don't know if I believe that or not).
So, all of this bullshit basically resulted in me having to re-plot two copies of both projects (they have to have two hardcopies, wet signed, and mailed to them - in 20 fucking 19. Nearly every other jurisdiction we deal with has gotten on last centuries bandwagon and have some kind of ability to accept drawings/submittals online (although they vary from 'barely functioning' to 'written in crayon').
Then I got to print out a set of data sheets for each project, and finish filling out the transmittals (whoever did them the first time made a number of mistakes and failed to fill in several fields). Now I'm waiting to find out if the guy who signed them last time can swing by and sign them (again) so that I can cram them in boxes and send them off.
The ONE engineer they have reviewing shit is apparently WAY behind (big surprise there) so they will most likely sit somewhere until they are fucking lost again. The only difference is that THIS TIME I will have done it all myself, and will have a tracking # to reference.
While I was writing this I received a .pdf showing equipment layouts for the third project - which is absolutely not going to be at the top of my (or anyone else's) list to do - but whenever we get it done, it will have to go through the same process as the other two.
Oh well - at least it wasn't Revit.
Crackalackin!
-$kü££ƒü¢k
Epilogue:
So, the guy who was on vacation returns from vacation, and after discussing it with him, it turns out that over a month ago, he had e-mailed a scanned signed set of drawings to this dipshit, who didn't even acknowledge that this had been done (I found these sets on our server, but didn't actually see the e-mail where he had sent them).
Now, these scanned drawings would've been wholly insufficient to meet the requirements of the AHJ reviewing them - even if he printed hardcopies (due to the requirement for them to be 'wet signed'), but the guy was acting like a) nothing had been sent, and b) we were supposed to know about the submission process 'eight months ago' (per the snotty e-mail he sent the guy who got back from vacation).
Now - here's where it gets hilarious. I go ahead and have the two sets wet signed, include two sets of specifications for the job, finish filling out the required transmittal form, and ship the whole thing to the AHJ via UPS. A few days later I get two packages back, and I'm like 'There's no way in hell they actually reviewed these - so I'm hesitantly opening them, expecting to see some kind of 'you didn't submit these properly' response that some AHJ's love to do.
Instead, there is a a letter in each package informing us that their office (the state office) doesn't review these drawings, and they need to be submitted to the local AHJ. I scanned these letters in and allowed the guy who had received the 'durrr... you were supposed to know how to submit these 8 months ago... durrr....' e-mail from the salesman. He sent it on with 'FYI' in the subject line, and no message.
I waited a day or so, and no response (typical). Finally, I called the salesman, and he is totally nonplussed - and while it was not entirely his fault, since he had submitted some similar projects before and they DID have to be submitted to the state office, he (and/or the GC) had dropped the ball BIGTIME in giving us the runaround.
I showed the letters to several people around our office, and every single response was 'what a dumbass' (or my favorite - 'he doesn't know his head from his ass'). They are now hanging on my wall - right next to an e-mail read receipt from another idiot salesman that I received a full six months after having sent a completed project.
Next Time: SALESFORCE!!!
Well, no new Revit news to report here - just a half a day wasted trying to figure out WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO TWO PROJECTS WE SUPPOSEDLY SUBMITTED SIX MONTHS AGO.
Of course the guy who did the projects goes on vacation - leaving me to field a call from an irate salesman screaming about 'I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THESE PROJECTS APPROVED FOR SIX MONTHS!!!! He actually tried to claim there were THREE projects, but after a quick check only two of them were actually done (the third is still waiting on info showing an equipment layout - which he apparently requested, only for them to try to resend the lighting plan... again).
I have access to the guy's computer who is on vacation, so I dig through his clusterfuck of e-mails back and forth, and talk to a girl in the front office who specifically remembered having our old office manager come back and sign off on the drawings (since he is the only guy with a Georgia license), but either those drawings got lost in the mail, or they were never shipped, or some damn thing.
I checked out UPS shipping records, but there was nothing. It's possible someone ran them out after hours to a UPS or FedEx store, and there is a tracking number laying around somewhere, but nobody bothered to make note of that.
I talked to the plans review office in Atlanta, who apparently only have one engineer for the entire goddamned state (for this kind of project), and noticed while I was going through the menus that they have the wrong suite # on their transmittal sheet that you have to fill out in order to submit. I thought for a minute that may have been the problem, but they assured me that they would've still received them even if it had gone to the wrong suite (although I don't know if I believe that or not).
So, all of this bullshit basically resulted in me having to re-plot two copies of both projects (they have to have two hardcopies, wet signed, and mailed to them - in 20 fucking 19. Nearly every other jurisdiction we deal with has gotten on last centuries bandwagon and have some kind of ability to accept drawings/submittals online (although they vary from 'barely functioning' to 'written in crayon').
Then I got to print out a set of data sheets for each project, and finish filling out the transmittals (whoever did them the first time made a number of mistakes and failed to fill in several fields). Now I'm waiting to find out if the guy who signed them last time can swing by and sign them (again) so that I can cram them in boxes and send them off.
The ONE engineer they have reviewing shit is apparently WAY behind (big surprise there) so they will most likely sit somewhere until they are fucking lost again. The only difference is that THIS TIME I will have done it all myself, and will have a tracking # to reference.
While I was writing this I received a .pdf showing equipment layouts for the third project - which is absolutely not going to be at the top of my (or anyone else's) list to do - but whenever we get it done, it will have to go through the same process as the other two.
Oh well - at least it wasn't Revit.
Crackalackin!
-$kü££ƒü¢k
Epilogue:
So, the guy who was on vacation returns from vacation, and after discussing it with him, it turns out that over a month ago, he had e-mailed a scanned signed set of drawings to this dipshit, who didn't even acknowledge that this had been done (I found these sets on our server, but didn't actually see the e-mail where he had sent them).
Now, these scanned drawings would've been wholly insufficient to meet the requirements of the AHJ reviewing them - even if he printed hardcopies (due to the requirement for them to be 'wet signed'), but the guy was acting like a) nothing had been sent, and b) we were supposed to know about the submission process 'eight months ago' (per the snotty e-mail he sent the guy who got back from vacation).
Now - here's where it gets hilarious. I go ahead and have the two sets wet signed, include two sets of specifications for the job, finish filling out the required transmittal form, and ship the whole thing to the AHJ via UPS. A few days later I get two packages back, and I'm like 'There's no way in hell they actually reviewed these - so I'm hesitantly opening them, expecting to see some kind of 'you didn't submit these properly' response that some AHJ's love to do.
Instead, there is a a letter in each package informing us that their office (the state office) doesn't review these drawings, and they need to be submitted to the local AHJ. I scanned these letters in and allowed the guy who had received the 'durrr... you were supposed to know how to submit these 8 months ago... durrr....' e-mail from the salesman. He sent it on with 'FYI' in the subject line, and no message.
I waited a day or so, and no response (typical). Finally, I called the salesman, and he is totally nonplussed - and while it was not entirely his fault, since he had submitted some similar projects before and they DID have to be submitted to the state office, he (and/or the GC) had dropped the ball BIGTIME in giving us the runaround.
I showed the letters to several people around our office, and every single response was 'what a dumbass' (or my favorite - 'he doesn't know his head from his ass'). They are now hanging on my wall - right next to an e-mail read receipt from another idiot salesman that I received a full six months after having sent a completed project.
Next Time: SALESFORCE!!!
Friday, October 4, 2019
Really Packing 'Em In
Bang Bang...
So I open a file that someone exported from what I assume is Revit, and the first thing I notice is 'holy fuck this file is massive', then I notice 'holy fuck this thing is slow as death', then I notice 'goddamn - this thing has fuckloads of unnecessary detail in it'.
That's a window detail that someone thought would be a good idea to insert every single place that glass appears in the building, rather than have a simple rectangle and a note to refer to a detail sheet.
Below is another type of window detail - there are a fuckload of these in the project too. I did some rough calculations and came up with a conservative estimate of 440,409 line segments JUST TO SHOW HOW WINDOWS ARE MOUNTED - and which ISN'T EVEN VISIBLE AT THE SCALE THE DRAWINGS WILL BE PRINTED AT.
As I always acknowledge - it's entirely possible that a program like Revit is affected differently by having this level of detail slapped all over a project, but at the same time I can also guarantee that it isn't helping.
And this is just windows - as you go through the rest of the project, there are all kinds of things that look like hatching until you start to drill down to the microscopic level - and find out that not only are they pointlessly detailed - THEY ARE FUCKING SIDEWAYS ON THE PLAN, SO YOU CAN'T FUCKING SEE THEM ANYWAY.
Lovingly rendered 3D signage on walls (that in elevation view just looks like letters, and even in a 3D view is barely noticeable). Chairs, tables, desks, sinks, toilets/urinals - in all their wireframe beauty.
And ALL DELETED.
The file is small, the response time when working in it is instantaneous, and now... the project is FUCKING DONE.
All in the time it would've taken to open the file in Revit, find out it's in the wrong version and it's trying to convert, open it in an older version, find out that someone fucked up the way the files are linked (including the MEP files that aren't being done in-house), having it crash once or twice, rebooting your computer, rebooting the server, finding out the model is corrupted, trying to hunt down the last known good model, and then redoing all of the work that you lost.
Just... fuck every bit of that.
And if you don't like it - FUCK YOU.
Next Time: Submission Regression
So I open a file that someone exported from what I assume is Revit, and the first thing I notice is 'holy fuck this file is massive', then I notice 'holy fuck this thing is slow as death', then I notice 'goddamn - this thing has fuckloads of unnecessary detail in it'.
That's a window detail that someone thought would be a good idea to insert every single place that glass appears in the building, rather than have a simple rectangle and a note to refer to a detail sheet.
Below is another type of window detail - there are a fuckload of these in the project too. I did some rough calculations and came up with a conservative estimate of 440,409 line segments JUST TO SHOW HOW WINDOWS ARE MOUNTED - and which ISN'T EVEN VISIBLE AT THE SCALE THE DRAWINGS WILL BE PRINTED AT.
As I always acknowledge - it's entirely possible that a program like Revit is affected differently by having this level of detail slapped all over a project, but at the same time I can also guarantee that it isn't helping.
And this is just windows - as you go through the rest of the project, there are all kinds of things that look like hatching until you start to drill down to the microscopic level - and find out that not only are they pointlessly detailed - THEY ARE FUCKING SIDEWAYS ON THE PLAN, SO YOU CAN'T FUCKING SEE THEM ANYWAY.
Lovingly rendered 3D signage on walls (that in elevation view just looks like letters, and even in a 3D view is barely noticeable). Chairs, tables, desks, sinks, toilets/urinals - in all their wireframe beauty.
And ALL DELETED.
The file is small, the response time when working in it is instantaneous, and now... the project is FUCKING DONE.
All in the time it would've taken to open the file in Revit, find out it's in the wrong version and it's trying to convert, open it in an older version, find out that someone fucked up the way the files are linked (including the MEP files that aren't being done in-house), having it crash once or twice, rebooting your computer, rebooting the server, finding out the model is corrupted, trying to hunt down the last known good model, and then redoing all of the work that you lost.
Just... fuck every bit of that.
And if you don't like it - FUCK YOU.
Next Time: Submission Regression
Friday, September 13, 2019
Giant Bag o' Dicks
It's the 200th Post!!!! Holy fuck!!! Oh well who fucking cares?
It's been a while, but people insist on continuing to shit out complete garbage with their Revit boxes, meaning I get to waste time cleaning them up so that I can have something passable to use as backgrounds for my drawings.
Combine this with a dipshit salesman that sends me useless information (when he actually sends me information) and what could be done in a few days ends up taking 2-3 times as long, since I have to beat information out of people.
My current project is a massive aerospace production facility - and goddamned did the architects and engineers responsible for designing this thing consume a lot of Revit penis. The electrical revit-bot in particular seemed to be having a lot of difficulty with it - which isn't surprising, because (as I experienced first hand) the software sucks ass for doing electrical design.
The first files I got were architectural reflected ceiling plans - as if those were going to be of any use whatsoever. I managed to dig up a set of electrical plans - which were better, and which ended up being the drawings I used to generate a floor plan.
They were some of the shittiest looking drawings I had ever seen - bathrooms in particular seem to escape Revitards ability to get right, with equipment inside walls, random objects (and/or lack of ability to comprehend the astronomical number of view range settings) wiping out little things like 'doors' and 'walls'.
I was able to fill in bits of information, including missing or incorrect room designations from the RCP's and a set of sprinkler drawings (that were equally useless, as they showed four risers - but only three details, and NOTHING telling you which one(s) occurred where.
The salesman kept claiming he was getting HVAC drawings so I could show equipment for those - but after a few days of getting jack and shit, I decided to take matters into my own hands, went directly to the Architect (since they were the only company that I could find a phone number for) and convinced them to give me a full set of .pdfs.
My first concern had been the lack of any second floor drawings in any of the sets I had received (but the existence of stairwells/elevators allowed me to infer the existence of). I was able to convert the second floor plans from the .pdfs (which I'm still cleaning up).
I had made a few attempts at laying out some equipment in the high bay areas - but it was only when I got this full set of .pdfs that I actually had elevations (what are those?) showing the bottom of the structure at 52 goddamned feet off the ground.
This meant that any device layouts, circuits, or calculations I had done all had to be scrapped as I derated all of the devices for ridiculous mounting heights - which will result in a buttfuckload of circuits, power supplies to feed those circuits, plus - just.... shitloads of extra wire.
It's par for the course for projects that come from this particular salesman I was talking to another designer who had been arguing with the same guy about how many circuits a project was going to need, despite it being obvious that the salesman had underestimated what it would take to handle the sheer amount of devices.
Then there was the fact that the building (a hotel) is four stories high, so it made sense to run one circuit per floor for these devices for ease of design, installation, commissioning, and troubleshooting. The guy seemed content with loading every circuit - instead of leaving at least a little spare capacity (which is a recipe for total fucking disaster down the road (or right away, depending on how much additional shit gets added as we find out that other people dropped the ball.
I just had a guy duck his head in on another project where we left a lot of spare capacity (at the owner's request we actually left more than usual) but where they are wanting to add a minor fuckload of devices to handle a number of fire/smoke dampers (this project having gone through dozens and dozens of internal reviews, before being reviewed by a third party engineering firm.
It's fucking amateur hour, as usual - with the only saving grace being that I'm not Reviting any of this bullshit (which has already irked a few people who wanted us to show our equipment for 'coordination'). This being bullshit as usual though, as they move our shit around in the field regardless of whether it is 'coordinated' or not.
Just... fuck Revit. Fuck the useless garbage that people using Revit crank out (and then pat themselves on the back for being so awesome), fuck those people, anyone else involved in the process, and fuck Autodesk (whose stock continues to nose-dive).
Fuck the world.
Sincerely.
-Skullfuck
Next Time - the 201st post. Or not. Who gives a shit anymore?
It's been a while, but people insist on continuing to shit out complete garbage with their Revit boxes, meaning I get to waste time cleaning them up so that I can have something passable to use as backgrounds for my drawings.
Combine this with a dipshit salesman that sends me useless information (when he actually sends me information) and what could be done in a few days ends up taking 2-3 times as long, since I have to beat information out of people.
My current project is a massive aerospace production facility - and goddamned did the architects and engineers responsible for designing this thing consume a lot of Revit penis. The electrical revit-bot in particular seemed to be having a lot of difficulty with it - which isn't surprising, because (as I experienced first hand) the software sucks ass for doing electrical design.
The first files I got were architectural reflected ceiling plans - as if those were going to be of any use whatsoever. I managed to dig up a set of electrical plans - which were better, and which ended up being the drawings I used to generate a floor plan.
They were some of the shittiest looking drawings I had ever seen - bathrooms in particular seem to escape Revitards ability to get right, with equipment inside walls, random objects (and/or lack of ability to comprehend the astronomical number of view range settings) wiping out little things like 'doors' and 'walls'.
I was able to fill in bits of information, including missing or incorrect room designations from the RCP's and a set of sprinkler drawings (that were equally useless, as they showed four risers - but only three details, and NOTHING telling you which one(s) occurred where.
The salesman kept claiming he was getting HVAC drawings so I could show equipment for those - but after a few days of getting jack and shit, I decided to take matters into my own hands, went directly to the Architect (since they were the only company that I could find a phone number for) and convinced them to give me a full set of .pdfs.
My first concern had been the lack of any second floor drawings in any of the sets I had received (but the existence of stairwells/elevators allowed me to infer the existence of). I was able to convert the second floor plans from the .pdfs (which I'm still cleaning up).
I had made a few attempts at laying out some equipment in the high bay areas - but it was only when I got this full set of .pdfs that I actually had elevations (what are those?) showing the bottom of the structure at 52 goddamned feet off the ground.
This meant that any device layouts, circuits, or calculations I had done all had to be scrapped as I derated all of the devices for ridiculous mounting heights - which will result in a buttfuckload of circuits, power supplies to feed those circuits, plus - just.... shitloads of extra wire.
It's par for the course for projects that come from this particular salesman I was talking to another designer who had been arguing with the same guy about how many circuits a project was going to need, despite it being obvious that the salesman had underestimated what it would take to handle the sheer amount of devices.
Then there was the fact that the building (a hotel) is four stories high, so it made sense to run one circuit per floor for these devices for ease of design, installation, commissioning, and troubleshooting. The guy seemed content with loading every circuit - instead of leaving at least a little spare capacity (which is a recipe for total fucking disaster down the road (or right away, depending on how much additional shit gets added as we find out that other people dropped the ball.
I just had a guy duck his head in on another project where we left a lot of spare capacity (at the owner's request we actually left more than usual) but where they are wanting to add a minor fuckload of devices to handle a number of fire/smoke dampers (this project having gone through dozens and dozens of internal reviews, before being reviewed by a third party engineering firm.
It's fucking amateur hour, as usual - with the only saving grace being that I'm not Reviting any of this bullshit (which has already irked a few people who wanted us to show our equipment for 'coordination'). This being bullshit as usual though, as they move our shit around in the field regardless of whether it is 'coordinated' or not.
Just... fuck Revit. Fuck the useless garbage that people using Revit crank out (and then pat themselves on the back for being so awesome), fuck those people, anyone else involved in the process, and fuck Autodesk (whose stock continues to nose-dive).
Fuck the world.
Sincerely.
-Skullfuck
Next Time - the 201st post. Or not. Who gives a shit anymore?
Tuesday, June 18, 2019
Spam Spam Spam Spam, Spam Spam Spam Spam
Lovely Spam, Beautiful Spam!!!!
So my phone is blowing up this morning because some jack-ass calling himself 'lost_in_woods'
decided to start spamming my blog by posting comments on dozens of my most recent posts - ostensibly with the aim of directing traffic towards a website offering 'BIM Global Solutions' with the intent of garnering business from people who might click on this link.
This is hilarious to me on many levels, as they obviously did not bother to read anything on this blog (or even the name of it), or they might have ascertained its general attitude towards BIM in general, and Revit specifically.
Now I get to spend time this morning cleaning out all of that spam, and figuring out how to report this ignorant fuckstick (since there doesn't seem to be an obvious way to do it). In the meantime, feel free to send Mr. 'lost_in_woods' and/or www.bimgs.com all the love and support they deserve for spreading the BIM disease throughout the world.
Fuck this guy, fuck this firm, and fuck everyone perpetuating the Revit lie.
Sincerely,
MISTER Skullfuck to you.
Next Time: The 200th Post.
P. S. - Just this morning I had another (or the same?) idiot post some more spam on a handful of my entries to advertise their Revit services. I guess they'll never learn!
So my phone is blowing up this morning because some jack-ass calling himself 'lost_in_woods'
decided to start spamming my blog by posting comments on dozens of my most recent posts - ostensibly with the aim of directing traffic towards a website offering 'BIM Global Solutions' with the intent of garnering business from people who might click on this link.
This is hilarious to me on many levels, as they obviously did not bother to read anything on this blog (or even the name of it), or they might have ascertained its general attitude towards BIM in general, and Revit specifically.
Now I get to spend time this morning cleaning out all of that spam, and figuring out how to report this ignorant fuckstick (since there doesn't seem to be an obvious way to do it). In the meantime, feel free to send Mr. 'lost_in_woods' and/or www.bimgs.com all the love and support they deserve for spreading the BIM disease throughout the world.
Fuck this guy, fuck this firm, and fuck everyone perpetuating the Revit lie.
Sincerely,
MISTER Skullfuck to you.
Next Time: The 200th Post.
P. S. - Just this morning I had another (or the same?) idiot post some more spam on a handful of my entries to advertise their Revit services. I guess they'll never learn!
Tuesday, June 11, 2019
Derps 'n Doors
Greetings and Welcome to the latest edition of the Revderps Awards (The Derpies!!)
This lovely piece of work comes to us via a Revitard so high on crack that even other Revitards were like 'Whoa there buddy - you might wanna cut down to only 5-6 rocks an hour.'
Hopefully they get a phone call asking for a detail showing how you mount one half of a door frame to the inside of a refrigerator.
This was the first drawing I opened for a project with several buildings, so I'm sure I'll find more idiotic mistakes, and will include them as they pop up - but this is hands down the stupidest crap I've seen in a while.
Meanwhile, I was watching a guy from the firm that shares the building that my office is in build a computer to 'handle' Revit. It is one motherfucker of a machine, and would handle just about any other task thrown at it (like software that was actually written by real programmers instead of handing some five year olds some code) with ease.
I'll be amused when he finds out that Revit can't take advantage of most of the advanced features that his build includes - leaving him with the same glitched out lagfest that he would experience on a machine with half of the specs of his mini-supercomputer.
Fuck Revit, Fuck Revit Machines, and Fuck Reviteers with dicks in their ears.
-Skull To The Mother Fuck.
Next Time: Spamming Motherfuckers.
Next Time: ?!?!?!
This lovely piece of work comes to us via a Revitard so high on crack that even other Revitards were like 'Whoa there buddy - you might wanna cut down to only 5-6 rocks an hour.'
Hopefully they get a phone call asking for a detail showing how you mount one half of a door frame to the inside of a refrigerator.
This was the first drawing I opened for a project with several buildings, so I'm sure I'll find more idiotic mistakes, and will include them as they pop up - but this is hands down the stupidest crap I've seen in a while.
Meanwhile, I was watching a guy from the firm that shares the building that my office is in build a computer to 'handle' Revit. It is one motherfucker of a machine, and would handle just about any other task thrown at it (like software that was actually written by real programmers instead of handing some five year olds some code) with ease.
I'll be amused when he finds out that Revit can't take advantage of most of the advanced features that his build includes - leaving him with the same glitched out lagfest that he would experience on a machine with half of the specs of his mini-supercomputer.
Fuck Revit, Fuck Revit Machines, and Fuck Reviteers with dicks in their ears.
-Skull To The Mother Fuck.
Next Time: Spamming Motherfuckers.
Next Time: ?!?!?!
Friday, May 24, 2019
So High I Have To Look Down To See The Cloud
Shazbot!
I know it's probably a little silly to complain about web-based applications while using a web-based application that stores my information... someplace... but for the last three days we've been unable to use the software that some genius determined was the best choice for managing all of our project/time tracking, billing, etc. thanks to an 'update' that has left the system completely non-functional.
We started receiving messages that the system would be down for 'maintenance' a while back, and sure enough, when the day came, it was down. Then it was down the next day, and another. Now, if this were a piece of software running on our server, maintained by our IT people, we would simply have drug them out from in front of their Linux boxes and told them to do their fucking jobs - or be beaten with blunt objects.
As it stands, someone, somewhere, with no vested interest in helping us (or preventing blunt force trauma to their faces) is dicking around, with god knows what, for god knows how long. Attempts at contacting them resulted in the standard runaround - starting with 'we're getting it back up ASAP', to 'here - try this non-functional link that we tried to make as a workaround'.
They FINALLY get around to fixing whatever was keeping us from being able to log on, but they've apparently discontinued support for Microsoft Explorer (which I have no love for, but I liked have a dedicated browser shortcut that took me straight to the login. No problem though - I just switched to using Edge (which I had avoided like the plague).
I even used an online icon maker to upload an image of the software companies logo and used it for the shortcut, so it's easy to find - but oh my god is it slower than shit now (same on Firefox and Chrome). They made the interface a little prettier, which is probably part of the reason it's so fucking slow - but I was able to get everything done that I needed to.
Now I get to waste my time doing a more detailed version of a detail that I already have done (on a project that I could issue today as soon as I complete some calculations - but that will probably take at least another day). Basically, we are showing a block diagram of all of the devices in the system on the circuits they are on (more or less just a duplicate of my floor plans - sans floor plans, and in a more orderly fashion).
What this client wants (and has gotten in the past) is a point-to-point wiring diagram showing every single goddamned wire connection to every single goddamned device in the building so that even an idiot could understand it. Normally I'm all for idiot-proofing things, but in this particular case, if someone doesn't already know how to wire these devices, they have no business being anywhere the fuck near these kinds of systems.
I've probably mentioned it before - but in the past, when I was designing electrical distribution systems (and avoiding Revit like the plague) there was a certain amount of deference to what we called 'means and methods' on the part of the electricians who would install the systems I was designing.
The assumption was that the electrician already knew how to electrician, and didn't need their dick held for them. Obviously, this wasn't always the case, but as long as we got our design intent across, and our specifications addressed all of the necessary situations, then they could go out and install everything based on their professional skills and knowledge.
Now. There would still be the occasional project where some dickless fuck (often a Revit using dickless fuck) would get involved, couldn't grasp the concept of 'partially schematical drawings' and would start requiring us to provide unnecessary levels of detail (without, of course, paying the requisite fees for said unnecessary levels of detail).
For example - I would always coordinate with our civil engineering team to make sure my service entrance conduits/equipment were located in accordance with all local codes, did not interfere with other systems (such as water/sewer/drainage/etc.) and in most cases, the utility company and/or electricians would install it exactly as shown.
On the other hand - when showing wiring within the building, a schematic was sufficient to show circuits, switching, etc. - and the electrician was responsible for determining the best, neatest, and/or most efficient way to route conduits throughout the building. Some people couldn't grasp the concept that if we did show all of our conduits - and they got out in the field and found that (for whatever reason) the conduit could not be run as shown, it would result in a costly change order.
Unfortunately, that wouldn't stop them from trying to suck us into the hell that mechanical engineers are forced to endure when it comes to showing systems like HVAC and plumbing that DO require extensive levels of detail and coordination in order for them to function - or that structural/architectural needed to show for their systems/buildings to be built properly.
Anyway, for this client, redundant levels of detail is what they do. It wastes everyone's time - especially when they start making (typically unnecessary) changes and they have to flow through all of the layers of detail - so instead of taking five minutes to update a set of drawings, it will take several hours (and guarantee something will be missed).
Having it automated seems like it would be a dream come true - but in the whole time I was exposed to Revit, I never once saw someone design an 'automated' system that didn't break after even minor modifications were made to it (often at the very last second - resulting in a lot of manually filling out schedules, sketching things in 2d, or otherwise 'faking it in' out of desperation.
As always, the problem tended to be that the claims made by the software 'developer' about their program's ability to be fluid enough to handle changes were undermined by the fact that they could not predict the kinds of changes that would be made - often way beyond the time that major changes should be being made, which would cause problems for anyone, regardless of what software they were using - but which were exacerbated by the fact that everything was so relentlessly interlocked.
Demonstrations would show how adjustments could be made, and other things would 'magically' update - but these were obviously very carefully orchestrated and tested 'cut scenes' rather than reflecting the 'in game' reality (to borrow a gaming metaphor). In reality, these interlocking systems are delicate, temperamental, and rarely (if ever) respond well to random changes.
It's one of the reasons why it's difficult for someone who doesn't have experience to design and modify these types of systems as they evolve - because a seemingly minor change to a floor plan can actually have catastrophic effects on the design of other systems. I would always joke that if they moved (or deleted) a wall - it was going to be the linchpin of the entire fucking design.
While I might be able to salvage most of the layout, I would have to make decisions based on what was going to be the fastest fix, rather than what would've been the best choice if the changes to the layout had been made prior to me starting my design. For example, the project I am wasting my time detailing out consists of two quonset hut style buildings - one is a 90K s.f. building (768' long), while the other is about half the size.
We designed both, but it turned out that the first one had been being constructed, and conduits/junction boxes had already been installed (much of it in-slab), based on an inferior design from someone who obviously had zero experience designing these types of systems - so we had to go back and modify our design, resulting in it being retarded and inefficient - and if I had designed it in Revit, I would be FUCKED.
Instead, it only took a few hours of thought and sketching in CAD to give the salesman something to take back out and review on-site, get approval, and then a few more hours to complete (with the exception of the stupid point-to-point connection diagram - but even that will only take a little while).
Relentlessly,
-kullfuckS
P.S. - I just read last night about Autodesks dismal quarterly earnings. The first article I read was trying to downplay it, but the next laid it bare. As always - Fuck 'em.
Next Time: The Derpth Annual Revderps Award
I know it's probably a little silly to complain about web-based applications while using a web-based application that stores my information... someplace... but for the last three days we've been unable to use the software that some genius determined was the best choice for managing all of our project/time tracking, billing, etc. thanks to an 'update' that has left the system completely non-functional.
We started receiving messages that the system would be down for 'maintenance' a while back, and sure enough, when the day came, it was down. Then it was down the next day, and another. Now, if this were a piece of software running on our server, maintained by our IT people, we would simply have drug them out from in front of their Linux boxes and told them to do their fucking jobs - or be beaten with blunt objects.
As it stands, someone, somewhere, with no vested interest in helping us (or preventing blunt force trauma to their faces) is dicking around, with god knows what, for god knows how long. Attempts at contacting them resulted in the standard runaround - starting with 'we're getting it back up ASAP', to 'here - try this non-functional link that we tried to make as a workaround'.
They FINALLY get around to fixing whatever was keeping us from being able to log on, but they've apparently discontinued support for Microsoft Explorer (which I have no love for, but I liked have a dedicated browser shortcut that took me straight to the login. No problem though - I just switched to using Edge (which I had avoided like the plague).
I even used an online icon maker to upload an image of the software companies logo and used it for the shortcut, so it's easy to find - but oh my god is it slower than shit now (same on Firefox and Chrome). They made the interface a little prettier, which is probably part of the reason it's so fucking slow - but I was able to get everything done that I needed to.
Now I get to waste my time doing a more detailed version of a detail that I already have done (on a project that I could issue today as soon as I complete some calculations - but that will probably take at least another day). Basically, we are showing a block diagram of all of the devices in the system on the circuits they are on (more or less just a duplicate of my floor plans - sans floor plans, and in a more orderly fashion).
What this client wants (and has gotten in the past) is a point-to-point wiring diagram showing every single goddamned wire connection to every single goddamned device in the building so that even an idiot could understand it. Normally I'm all for idiot-proofing things, but in this particular case, if someone doesn't already know how to wire these devices, they have no business being anywhere the fuck near these kinds of systems.
I've probably mentioned it before - but in the past, when I was designing electrical distribution systems (and avoiding Revit like the plague) there was a certain amount of deference to what we called 'means and methods' on the part of the electricians who would install the systems I was designing.
The assumption was that the electrician already knew how to electrician, and didn't need their dick held for them. Obviously, this wasn't always the case, but as long as we got our design intent across, and our specifications addressed all of the necessary situations, then they could go out and install everything based on their professional skills and knowledge.
Now. There would still be the occasional project where some dickless fuck (often a Revit using dickless fuck) would get involved, couldn't grasp the concept of 'partially schematical drawings' and would start requiring us to provide unnecessary levels of detail (without, of course, paying the requisite fees for said unnecessary levels of detail).
For example - I would always coordinate with our civil engineering team to make sure my service entrance conduits/equipment were located in accordance with all local codes, did not interfere with other systems (such as water/sewer/drainage/etc.) and in most cases, the utility company and/or electricians would install it exactly as shown.
On the other hand - when showing wiring within the building, a schematic was sufficient to show circuits, switching, etc. - and the electrician was responsible for determining the best, neatest, and/or most efficient way to route conduits throughout the building. Some people couldn't grasp the concept that if we did show all of our conduits - and they got out in the field and found that (for whatever reason) the conduit could not be run as shown, it would result in a costly change order.
Unfortunately, that wouldn't stop them from trying to suck us into the hell that mechanical engineers are forced to endure when it comes to showing systems like HVAC and plumbing that DO require extensive levels of detail and coordination in order for them to function - or that structural/architectural needed to show for their systems/buildings to be built properly.
Anyway, for this client, redundant levels of detail is what they do. It wastes everyone's time - especially when they start making (typically unnecessary) changes and they have to flow through all of the layers of detail - so instead of taking five minutes to update a set of drawings, it will take several hours (and guarantee something will be missed).
Having it automated seems like it would be a dream come true - but in the whole time I was exposed to Revit, I never once saw someone design an 'automated' system that didn't break after even minor modifications were made to it (often at the very last second - resulting in a lot of manually filling out schedules, sketching things in 2d, or otherwise 'faking it in' out of desperation.
As always, the problem tended to be that the claims made by the software 'developer' about their program's ability to be fluid enough to handle changes were undermined by the fact that they could not predict the kinds of changes that would be made - often way beyond the time that major changes should be being made, which would cause problems for anyone, regardless of what software they were using - but which were exacerbated by the fact that everything was so relentlessly interlocked.
Demonstrations would show how adjustments could be made, and other things would 'magically' update - but these were obviously very carefully orchestrated and tested 'cut scenes' rather than reflecting the 'in game' reality (to borrow a gaming metaphor). In reality, these interlocking systems are delicate, temperamental, and rarely (if ever) respond well to random changes.
It's one of the reasons why it's difficult for someone who doesn't have experience to design and modify these types of systems as they evolve - because a seemingly minor change to a floor plan can actually have catastrophic effects on the design of other systems. I would always joke that if they moved (or deleted) a wall - it was going to be the linchpin of the entire fucking design.
While I might be able to salvage most of the layout, I would have to make decisions based on what was going to be the fastest fix, rather than what would've been the best choice if the changes to the layout had been made prior to me starting my design. For example, the project I am wasting my time detailing out consists of two quonset hut style buildings - one is a 90K s.f. building (768' long), while the other is about half the size.
We designed both, but it turned out that the first one had been being constructed, and conduits/junction boxes had already been installed (much of it in-slab), based on an inferior design from someone who obviously had zero experience designing these types of systems - so we had to go back and modify our design, resulting in it being retarded and inefficient - and if I had designed it in Revit, I would be FUCKED.
Instead, it only took a few hours of thought and sketching in CAD to give the salesman something to take back out and review on-site, get approval, and then a few more hours to complete (with the exception of the stupid point-to-point connection diagram - but even that will only take a little while).
Relentlessly,
-kullfuckS
P.S. - I just read last night about Autodesks dismal quarterly earnings. The first article I read was trying to downplay it, but the next laid it bare. As always - Fuck 'em.
Next Time: The Derpth Annual Revderps Award
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